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#1 User is offline   Blue Fire 

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Posted 30 January 2008 - 08:08 PM

I ran across this just today: (from: There is now mounting evidence there is no direct interaction between gravitation and electromagnetism and that microlensing is merely a failed attempt to explain the lack of observational evidence for macrolensing.)

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There is now mounting evidence there is no direct interaction between gravitation and electromagnetism and that microlensing is merely a failed attempt to explain the lack of observational evidence for macrolensing.
2008-01-29 08:47:55 - There is now solid evidence that direct interaction between gravitation and electromagnetism simply does not occur. Microlensing may merely be a failed attempt to explain the lack of observational evidence for macrolensing. The past decades of astrophysical events interpreted as gravitational lensing may be just plain optical refraction due to intergalactic and interstellar media.
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I'm just wondering if anyone else has come across this yet. If you haven't, it's worth a look IMHO. The full article seems to make a lot of sense although I'm not familiar with the specific mathematics formulas the author uses.

I'd love to hear what everyone thinks of this. It seems to be very much against the mainstream and would seem to invalidate Relativity's prediction of light paths being affected by gravity. :confused:
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Posted 30 January 2008 - 11:08 PM

I would say that would be a pretty big upset if gravitational lensing when out the window. To say there is no interaction between light and gravity, that just opens up a beehive of discussion. What happens to light then around a black hole? I haven't read the articles yet, but the topic heading of "no interaction between light and gravity" and the included content is enough to get started on this juicy and I dare say controversial information.

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 08:46 AM

Very large implications! it just goes to show us how little we know of gravity, this also brings into question the very nature of black holes, lets couple this with a CMB corruption that is well known, and the nature of the Doppler redshift and its interpretations, the interaction of dark matter Halos, and if this paper is correct, we need to re-evaluate the whole theory of relativity and cosmology as a whole.

IF this is so cut and dry simple, why has mainstream science dropped the ball on this one? I have to doubt the accuracy of this paper!
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Posted 31 January 2008 - 09:35 PM

Yup, I'm pretty suspicious of the claims made by this paper. I've not noticed any hubbub about it elsewhere on the net yet, and it seems like this would be big news in the astrophysics community. And, after having scanned through the paper, though I'm no expert, there doesn't seem to be anything there (including the math) that experts would stumble over or have much difficulty with if they were to critically review the paper. Of course history is filled with science that was wrong and had to be revised or updated according to new data, discoveries, findings, etc., and overturning gravitational lensing (like other long-held, entrenched, ideas) would naturally be an uphill battle,... but I just have to think that there would some folks who would jump on the bandwagon, so to speak, if anyone but the author was taking it seriously.

Time will tell, I guess.
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Posted 03 February 2008 - 07:52 PM

I don't like this. I don't think it's possible for it not to be the cause. :huh:

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 02:23 PM

Hi Dragon,

How is Sunny Florida treating you?

I wouldn't give that article too much weight, If they are correct, then how do we explain how light cannot escape a black hole? What are they going to say? Magnetism? so if this is correct then gravitational lensing is a Gauss related phenomenon ?

The theory of relativity has stood 100 years of validation, that article almost seems like a basis for the electric universe theory.

You may want to read this thread on BAUT, Electric Universe Model., - Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum

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Posted 16 February 2008 - 06:33 PM

I'm doing a job in Texas right now. My house is 1,127 miles away. :tongue_smilie:Weather sucks here! :cursing:

As for the BH comment, don't be so quick. :tongue_smilie:Photons always travel in straight directions, however mass (not gravity) warps space, which curves the straight line that photons fallow. The more severely warped space is, the more it's curved. If light makes it to the even horizon, then it's reached a point it can only continue to spin in circles, each smaller and smaller as it fallows the "fabric". I don't think electromagnetism has anything to say about that.

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