[dmill1220]

I did mean dark Energy, and not dark matter, I also meant to say that we need to phsyically detect it, Science requires proof and they will not stop until they find it, if its possible. So far our math seems to be on the right track but its extremely important to actually confirm dark energy instead of mathematically theorizing it right? I was watching a show on the science channel about the expanding universe where both of these theories were debated, I wish I could remember the name of the Cosmolgist that is the underdog with his varying gravitaional theory. I read about this some time ago in Astronomy Magazine, they even got into bubble Universe theories along with string theories, believe me Im no cosmologist, but we dont have all the answers yet, and those of us that think we do Are keeping a closed mind, which really stops the advancement of science.

as far as the Hindus, when I was in the army I met one while on Duty over seas, He explained to me that they believe that the universe goes thru Cycles that last a long period of time i cant remember what he called it but its where the universe expands seemingly for a long long time then it slows and contracts and then starts a whole new big bang then every instance of a new big bang has its own different laws of Physics sounds really wierd dosent it?
here is some food for thought that he gave me, we can only expierience with our senses right? but we know that there is alot more to the universe that what we can see, things that only our instruments or computer simulations alow us to concieve, every time we look with better instruments or with new mathematics we find more questions. I guess what im trying to say is we are a long way from knowing it all. Maybe Ockhams Razor isnt the right approach?
I dont pretend to know or even guess at this since we are only limted by our senses, I just choose to keep an open mind and sit back take everything in that I can and learn and wonder at how truly an amazing time we live in.
Dennis